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  Goodbye Mother

  by punkofnice in

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  so my mother passed on 20 aug 23 from the big c. i was there when she went.

  that was indeed very traumatic.

  i won't go to describe it.. dad went 17 years ago so there's just me now.

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  stan livedeath

  When my 94 y o JW dad died in 2016--i checked his will--there was no mention of funeral arrangements, so as there was no one else to make the arrangements--i did it all. I met with a funeral director--and explained i wanted no religious service whatsoever.

  I never told his congregation he had died--or his grand children--all JWs, who had never visited him in the care home--or for years before that.

  I went to the crematorium--along with 2 friends of mine--both ex jw. A couple of the carers from the home went. The coffin was bought in--the funeral director said there would be a couple of minutes silence for reflection; the curtain closed in front of the coffin--and that was that.

  i think of my dad quite often--and i believe he had a lot of doubts about the religion--but he kept it to himself. The congregation was well aware i was very close to my dad--and he never shunned me.
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  Goodbye Mother

  by punkofnice in

  1. jw
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  so my mother passed on 20 aug 23 from the big c. i was there when she went.

  that was indeed very traumatic.

  i won't go to describe it.. dad went 17 years ago so there's just me now.

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  stan livedeath

  sorry for your loss mate.
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  Mandated Shunning is a Crime

  by Lee Marsh in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.

  shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.

  mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.

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  stan livedeath

  if JWs hate me--do i have to hate them back ? If i do--arent i the same as them ?
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  ex-jw-uk

  by bigmac in

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  2. friends

  i'm quite new to this site, & have realised some members have a union jack symbol under their avatar.

  i don't.. could we have a "show of hands" from any uk members?

  i've already found several by reading older posts..

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  stan livedeath

  i thought i would drag this old thread up to date-took me ages to find in search;

  any recent new UK members welcome to add their username and say hello.
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  How to Legally Dissolve a Religious Organization

  by EasyPrompt in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  regarding the state dissolving a church organization.... .

  as posted in another thread, here is what is happening in japan, filing a court order to dissolve the unification church.... .

  https://www.eurasiareview.com/06092023-japan-seeks-court-order-to-dissolve-unification-church/.

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  stan livedeath

  /\ /\

  all of which is just your opinion: wishful thinking ( understandable ) but unprovable--unless it happens.
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  How to Legally Dissolve a Religious Organization

  by EasyPrompt in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  regarding the state dissolving a church organization.... .

  as posted in another thread, here is what is happening in japan, filing a court order to dissolve the unification church.... .

  https://www.eurasiareview.com/06092023-japan-seeks-court-order-to-dissolve-unification-church/.

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  stan livedeath

  easy prompt:

  When he takes the throne in heaven, he will clean out the house, first thing. He'll clean the Devil out of heaven

  hasnt he done that already ?
  
  
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  Do you play the LOTTERY?

  by Fisherman in

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  jw view gambling as a sin and sadly people get addicted to gambling causing them financial and health problems.

  but is playing a couple of bucks a week on some lottery tickets actually gambling?

  what do you have to lose?

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  stan livedeath

  back in the 90s--the small company i worked for had 9 staff. We formed a syndicate on the lottery ( UK ). Back then there were 49 numbers.

  My suggestion was we all picked different numbers, the same each week. That way we covered all the numbers--which shortened the odds slightly. But no--the dopes wanted their own " lucky numbers " so a lot of numbers were duplicated--and others not covered.

  The decision was that any £10 wins ( the minimum ) would be pooled to pay for the christmas dinner and booze up.

  My line won the £10 a few times--but mostly no-one won anything. But thanks to my wins the xmas fund had a nice little ££amount in it--that was till 2 of the boneheads took the lot and invested it in scratch cards.

  Then there was nothing left--and i boycotted the group.
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  Mandated Shunning is a Crime

  by Lee Marsh in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.

  shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.

  mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.

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  stan livedeath

  @easyprompt.

  i simply asked you to confirm what you wrote--hardly a bible question--is it. Also it shows i do read what you write. Its often just your opinion--nothing more.

  The problem--for you--will arise when none of what you write takes place--what will you do then ?
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  Mandated Shunning is a Crime

  by Lee Marsh in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.

  shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.

  mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.

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  stan livedeath

  Easyprompt:

  Once it starts, it'll be over in 3 1/2 years. Then we'll really be free.

  so the 3 & half is actual not symbolic ?
  
  
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  Are adjustable rate mortgages the norm in the UK?

  by SydBarrett in

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  2. friends

  perhaps an odd subject for a presumably religious focused discussion board, but there are a fair number of brits here... i'm an american, but i sometimes listen to the podcast of the james o'brien radio show.

  (a brit political radio show where people call in).

  the past few months, a common topic has been people calling in discussing how hard they are getting hit financially because of a dramatic rise in interest rates on their mortgage.

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  stan livedeath

  what caused all these problems of high mortgage repayments now was the easy availabilty of dirt cheap mortgages in recent years--lack of supply in a high demand market shot house prices up. All the yuppies had to "get on the ladder" But the bubble has burst and house prices are collapsing.

  We have seen it all before.

  I sold up in 1991 and took a loss--then rented for the next 8 years.

  Bought again in 1999--same price as i sold for 8 years before--and sat in that house for 4 years as the price quadrupled !

  sold and bought twice since then.

  Sold my present house 2 years ago for 50% more than i paid for it 5 years before--but cancelled the sale...as it was so chaotic with properties being sold the day they hit the market.

  For me the cloud has a silver lining--at least i am now getting reasonable interest on my savings--but i have seen interest rates of 10% on savings in years gone by.